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		<title>iCities (X). Round Table: The Limits of 2.0</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[iCities is a Conference about Blogs, e-Government and Digital Participation.Here come my notes for session X. Round Table: Chairs: Goyo Tovar Antonio Fumero The Web: technologies, people and content. The Web brings potential, but using it is another issue. And in using it, context matters. Ícaro Moyano Age is a clear limit of Web 2.0. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><a href="http://www.icities.es">iCities</a> is a Conference about Blogs, e-Government and Digital Participation.<br/>Here come my notes for session X.</em></p>
<h4>Round Table: <br/>Chairs: <a href="http://goyotovar.lasideas.es/">Goyo Tovar</a></h4>
<h4><a href="http://antoniofumero.com/">Antonio Fumero</a></h4>
<p>The Web: technologies, people and content. The Web brings potential, but using it is another issue. And in using it, context matters.</p>
<h4><a href="http://tuenti.com">Ícaro Moyano</a></h4>
<p>Age is a clear limit of Web 2.0.</p>
<p>Three stages of the web:</p>
<ul>
<li>The web as a journal: unidirectional</li>
<li>The web as media: everyone&#8217;s a journalist</li>
<li>The web as a sharing place</li>
</ul>
<p>New Internet users no longer identify themselves with a nickname, but with their <em>real</em> names, including a snapshot of their own.</p>
<p>And it seems that youngsters, that are usually said not being interested in politics, do use Social Networking Sites to engage in activism and promote campaigns.</p>
<h4><a href="http://marcvidal.cat/">Marc Vidal</a></h4>
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<p>Are the limits of the Web 2.0 the limits of the Society 2.0?</p>
<p>Is the Web 2.0 revolution a technological one, or a <em>social</em> one?</p>
<p>Characteristics of a Technological Revolution</p>
<ul>
<li>New products, technologies and dynamics</li>
<li>Important growth or new enterprises</li>
<li>Renewing of the existing productive apparatus</li>
<li>Evident generation of wealth</li>
</ul>
<p>Has the Web 2.0 (clearly) generated this wealth? Is there a new business plan?</p>
<p>But, socially? Is it a Revolution?</p>
<ul>
<li>It&#8217;s a scholar &#8220;seppuku&#8221;</li>
<li>It&#8217;s a copyright unsolved &#8220;violation&#8221;</li>
<li>Has not an associated consolidated business plan</li>
<li>It&#8217;s amateur information</li>
</ul>
<p>But attracts any kind of people. Just because of this: it is a technological revolution living besides a social change.</p>
<p>Web 2.0 tools are an array of e-exclusion and, more generally, exclusion. People not interested or without means to catch up with the speed of change of the Web 2.0 are being put out of the system at high speed. Thus, if the Web 2.0 is said to be a democratizing driver, it&#8217;s just having the contrary effect.</p>
<p>Society 2.0 is not accessing info but taking part in the making of it. Society 2.0 does not debate the solutions, but the question.</p>
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